This week, our host Dr. Philip Gooding (IOWC, McGill) joins in conversation with Dr. Alice Nyawira Karuri (Strathmore) to discuss her recent chapter "Adaptation of Small-Scale Tea and Coffee Farmers in Kenya to Climate Change," published in the African Handbook of Climate Change Adaptation (Springer, 2021). Their conversation covers Dr. Karuri's economic research into the challenges facing Kenyan tea and coffee farmers in our current climate crisis, the work that the farmers and their partners are doing—or not—to face those challenges, and the economic, political, and historical forces that shape stakeholder decision-making. Dr. Karuri is a lecturer in Development Studies at Strathmore University in Nairobi, Kenya. She completed her PhD in Development Studies at Jomo Kenyatta University of Agriculture and Technology in 2019 and is currently contributing to the HESTIA Farm Sustainability Toolkit Project at Oxford University. Links: Article: https://doi.org/10.1007/978-3-030-45106-6_70 Website: https://www.shss.strathmore.edu/dr-alice-karuri/ The Indian Ocean World Podcast is hosted by Dr. Philip Gooding, produced by Sam Gleave Riemann, and published under the SSHRC-funded Partnership “Appraising Risk, Past and Present.”